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The Question Of Kapo
Topic Started: Aug 16 2007, 01:43 PM (1,066 Views)
BARNETTSrun
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wonderful player
silky
glides about the pitch
left foot like a wand

where do we play him to get the best out of him ?

off the front - away from home IMO

left side - doesnt get enough of the ball at times - IMO

would love to see him alongside muamba in a game at home - against the lesser sides

but will bruce trust him enough to do it ? (same scenario when we had dunny)

lets hope so


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Yeah, in the centre with Kapo more attacking and Muamba more defensive roles. He could bring O'Connor and Forsell into play alot from that position. Just my own taughts anyway.
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I agree he should be in the middle but unfortunatley Bruce won't have the courage to do that. Though he'll do a job on the left he'd be wasted out there like Dunn and Jarosik were and whilst he is good at playing off Forsell, O'connor playing that role with Kapo in the centre of midfield would be even better.
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Left seems to be the best position in my opinion.

I'm not sure Muamba could cope with being the only central midfielder at the minute. Kapo might struggle too if he has to go and defend a bit. Looks like he's relishing playing the central attacking role and creating and setting up goals. Nafti and Muamba give him so much freedom. But, on the left, I think we'll get a bit more out of him.

If Sheffers picks up a bit of form, it might be worth considering putting him on the right and having him drift inside?

But for West Ham, I'd put him on the left and either start McSheffrey as a striker or drop him in place of O'Connor/Jerome.
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No doubt kapo is class, but my only niggle i have with him, is he sometimes seems lazy?
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Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.
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i dnt think he is lazy at all...and i cant belive he is are player and not on loan...defenatly not lazy though i saw a few people say that wtf:S
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Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM
Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.

everton were away from home against a side that will come forward

when we play the LESSER side in this division ie SUNDERLAND

its a different scenario

the emphasis is on us to go and create

away from home i have no probs at all with muamba / nafti

or at home against MAN U CHELSEA OR LIVERPOOL

I THINK djiourou will eventually play alongisde muamba when schmitz is fit anyway
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rye_bcfc_334
Aug 16 2007, 03:09 PM
i dnt think he is lazy at all...and i cant belive he is are player and not on loan...defenatly not lazy though i saw a few people say that wtf:S

He basically is though. We're a stepping stone for him. Unless we finish in Europe ( :ph43r: ) I can't see him being here next season.
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
rye_bcfc_334
Aug 16 2007, 03:09 PM
i dnt think he is lazy at all...and i cant belive he is are player and not on loan...defenatly not lazy though i saw a few people say that wtf:S

He basically is though. We're a stepping stone for him. Unless we finish in Europe ( :ph43r: ) I can't see him being here next season.

I agree tbh, I'd put money on him being at Arsenal next summer.
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KasimBlues4Life
Aug 16 2007, 03:20 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
rye_bcfc_334
Aug 16 2007, 03:09 PM
i dnt think he is lazy at all...and i cant belive he is are player and not on loan...defenatly not lazy though i saw a few people say that wtf:S

He basically is though. We're a stepping stone for him. Unless we finish in Europe ( :ph43r: ) I can't see him being here next season.

I agree tbh, I'd put money on him being at Arsenal next summer.

Not sure about Arsenal, but he'll be at a bigger club than us.
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He wont leave us next year he will love it here like all the others that sign for us.

If he does go lets be honest even after only seing him twice, 5m for chopra and koumas, i honestly think we could demand 10m for him, not a bad bit of business if the worst was to happen.

KRO and think positive FFS
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I imagine there is already an escape clause. His agent wasn't stupid in letting him move to a team 2nd favourites for relegation without sticking some sort of buy out clause in the contract. He's said on numerous times that we're a stepping stone in his career.

To be honest, if we get a year out of him playing like he has been, its a bonus.
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My God, 2 games and we're talking about him leaving :LOL:
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Id play him centre-mid along with muamba but just behind the strikers with muamba playing a more defensive role.
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Well said phil. People are too negative, we sign a decent player and everyone assumes he will leave. Enjoy his skills, goals etc. while he is here like we did with Dugarry instead of assuming he will go to a so called bigger club.

That is half our trouble as a club, we think to negatively, think positive and lets get a win on saturday, climb the table and aim for the top half of the league, Reading did it last year so why not us.
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Aug 16 2007, 03:46 PM
Well said phil. People are too negative, we sign a decent player and everyone assumes he will leave. Enjoy his skills, goals etc. while he is here like we did with Dugarry instead of assuming he will go to a so called bigger club.

That is half our trouble as a club, we think to negatively, think positive and lets get a win on saturday, climb the table and aim for the top half of the league, Reading did it last year so why not us.

I wasn't "thinking negatively". I've said Kapo is a good player, I've said we'll do well, and I've said I enjoy watching Kapo play. Saying he will be here for years is just living in ignorance though.

But yeah, I reckon we'll win on Saturday. The performances we've put in have been good enough for this league, we just need to get some results to go our way and we'll be well away. **thumbup
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Aug 16 2007, 02:44 PM
Id play him centre-mid along with muamba but just behind the strikers with muamba playing a more defensive role.

Thats exactly what I reckon/said. Whenever we played Dunn and Savage in this format it seemed to work great for us.
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM
Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.

everton were away from home against a side that will come forward

when we play the LESSER side in this division ie SUNDERLAND

its a different scenario

the emphasis is on us to go and create

The same Everton midfield lined up, in the same formation, at home to Wigan on Saturday. It has nothing to do with the standard of opposition and the venue. It's a formation that can work, and they are proving it. They've scored five in two games, we've scored four in two games. Plenty of teams wouldn't mind that for a record.

And quite why we'd play Djourou in midfield when he played for Arsenal at centre half and plays for Switzerland at centre half I have no idea.
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Aug 16 2007, 03:19 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM
Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.

everton were away from home against a side that will come forward

when we play the LESSER side in this division ie SUNDERLAND

its a different scenario

the emphasis is on us to go and create

The same Everton midfield lined up, in the same formation, at home to Wigan on Saturday. It has nothing to do with the standard of opposition and the venue. It's a formation that can work, and they are proving it. They've scored five in two games, we've scored four in two games. Plenty of teams wouldn't mind that for a record.

And quite why we'd play Djourou in midfield when he played for Arsenal at centre half and plays for Switzerland at centre half I have no idea.

djorou played for arsenal at the back end of last season in midfield

i dont give two hoots about everton

teams play all sorts of formations and systems and by and large most formulas will work

if you have the right personel

because everton play acertain way doesnt mean it would work for anyone else

and IMO - with our squad and personel i feel we need more than nafti / mumba at home for us to break teams down

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Aug 16 2007, 03:37 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 03:19 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
franscar
Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM
Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.

everton were away from home against a side that will come forward

when we play the LESSER side in this division ie SUNDERLAND

its a different scenario

the emphasis is on us to go and create

The same Everton midfield lined up, in the same formation, at home to Wigan on Saturday. It has nothing to do with the standard of opposition and the venue. It's a formation that can work, and they are proving it. They've scored five in two games, we've scored four in two games. Plenty of teams wouldn't mind that for a record.

And quite why we'd play Djourou in midfield when he played for Arsenal at centre half and plays for Switzerland at centre half I have no idea.

djorou played for arsenal at the back end of last season in midfield

and IMO we need more than nafti / mumba at home for us to break teams down

I'm with Franscar on this one.

lining up with

Larsson(right) Kapo(Left)

Forssell & O'Conner up front is enough attacking options.

Leaving McSheffrey on the wing with Kapo in the middle means you are effectively leaving Muamba on his own in the middle when teams counter attack us. We would get ripped to shreds.
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Aug 16 2007, 03:37 PM

djorou played for arsenal at the back end of last season in midfield

No he didn't. He played centre back and right back.
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Aug 16 2007, 03:45 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 03:37 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 03:19 PM
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Aug 16 2007, 02:18 PM
franscar
Aug 16 2007, 02:09 PM
Left wing for Kapo. Give Jerome a chance to show Upson a clean pair of heels and give McSheffrey a rest to clear his head a bit. People keep going on about a creative player in the middle of the park being a MUST, but after watching Everton play two creative wide players and two defensive minded central players in their destruction of Spurs on Tuesday, it's clearly a fallacy.

everton were away from home against a side that will come forward

when we play the LESSER side in this division ie SUNDERLAND

its a different scenario

the emphasis is on us to go and create

The same Everton midfield lined up, in the same formation, at home to Wigan on Saturday. It has nothing to do with the standard of opposition and the venue. It's a formation that can work, and they are proving it. They've scored five in two games, we've scored four in two games. Plenty of teams wouldn't mind that for a record.

And quite why we'd play Djourou in midfield when he played for Arsenal at centre half and plays for Switzerland at centre half I have no idea.

djorou played for arsenal at the back end of last season in midfield

and IMO we need more than nafti / mumba at home for us to break teams down

I'm with Franscar on this one.

lining up with

Larsson(right) Kapo(Left)

Forssell & O'Conner up front is enough attacking options.

Leaving McSheffrey on the wing with Kapo in the middle means you are effectively leaving Muamba on his own in the middle when teams counter attack us. We would get ripped to shreds.

you may be right


however isolating kapo on the left - with some of the lack of quality ball he will get may also hinder us

last night how many times did we get him on the ball in a position to hurt the opponent ?

once - 2nd goal ?

like i said its an interesting question

kapo djouro muamba larsson ?
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Aug 16 2007, 03:47 PM
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djorou played for arsenal at the back end of last season in midfield

No he didn't. He played centre back and right back.

he filled in for gilberto

has even stated the reason he came to birmingham was that he felt he would get the chance to play in midfield
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And when exactly did this happen? I'm sitting next to an Arsenal season ticket holder and he's not coming up with any such time. And I haven't seen any quotes from him saying he wants to play in midfield.
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